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October 21st, 2009:

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I send an email to Peter Joseph                                                            requesting an on-camera interview...

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...No Response

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November 3rd, 2009:

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I send another email to Peter Joseph...

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Response!

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Response!                                          (November 10th)

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"Charles, I am very busy at this time...                                                         I will be in and out of town this month.

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Try me in early Dec.                                                                               thx,  Peter"

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December 1st, 2009:

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December 1st, 2009: I send another email to Peter Joseph requesting the interview...

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...(waiting)

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December 5th: "...fine- I'll give you 2 hrs. I'm in Bushwick..." P

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Who is Peter Joseph?

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A Mini-Doc by Charles Robinson

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www.whoispeterjoseph.com

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Background

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My name is Peter Joseph. I live in Brooklyn, New York. I'm 31 years old.

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I am an independent film maker and I suppose the de facto founder of an organization called;

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"The Zeitgeist Movement"

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As far as my background, I was born to what I consider to be a middle class family.

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My father was a... is now a retired postal employee,

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and my mother is a retired Child Protective Services employee.

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In fact, a lot of my social dispositions on society I think might come from

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the experiences I had listening to the stories coming from my mother.

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I started getting interested in music I think at about eight or nine.

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I seemed to fall into a love of percussion and drums and rhythm.

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I was very lucky to be accepted to a school in North Carolina,

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an art school in a university,

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which allowed me to grow up in a very different upbringing

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than I think most people grow up into

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in a rural town in a place in the south such as North Carolina.

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And I was exposed to a lot of different cultures, a lot of different interests,

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a lot of things that you wouldn't find in a typical high school, say, in the south.

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I was exposed to a large variety of people

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and artistic and creative people, specifically,

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which I think imprinted on me, so to speak,

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and I continue those trends today.

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Music and percussion are coupled straight into my identity.

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People say to me: "Well, you know, you work with this social organisation,

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but yet, you're just a musician". You know,  "just a musician".

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There is the credentialism tendency that comes up a lot

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with anyone that talks about the issues that we talk about in the movement

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or that have been talked about in the films.

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And, we can talk about that a little bit later as well.

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But, what I'd like to say is that, I look at music now as a form of meditation.

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It's something that's an outlet, it maintains my balance.

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So I continue to practice in a very personal sense,

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it's not that I go out and perform that much anymore,

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I don't have time to anymore.

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After my second year of college, I dropped out

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realizing that the debt that I was accruing was absolutely not worth it.

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getting a ridiculous amount of debt, $80 to $100,000

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and then being thrown into the work force,

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automatically in a position of indentured servitude, if you will.

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Automatically having to give yourself to the system because you're already in so much debt.

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My original interest was to be a solo classical marimbist,

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a laughable concept when I think about it now,

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but we all have our bouts of naivety as we grow.

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Once music became difficult for me to pursue as a career choice,

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I started to get into video and editing, and I got a job in New York,

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many jobs in New York, doing various freelance video editing,

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You have to do whatever pays you in this society,

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and I couldn't really find the niche to make money in music so, I ended up in advertising.

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I always had a problem with people telling me what to do in the labor force,

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and I did not like advertising, obviously.

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I did not like the nonsensical manipulation of people's perceptions so corporations can sell their crap.

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So I began to pursue work in the financial arena.

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I began to do day trading, pattern training.

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I was moderately successful. I never had a  big capital base, which you really do have to have.

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and I continued to do it on and off for many, many years.

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I don't do it anymore because I despise the market system.

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The way I justified this was it was the only job I could come up with,

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that didn't have a boss or a client, so it represented freedom to me.

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Granted, trading the stock market has absolutely no social relevance,

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in regard to the natural order of affairs on this planet.

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So at that stage in my life, I just wanted a way out.

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I wanted to not have to deal with being a slave to the corporate system anymore.

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So anyway, that's when I started first investigating economics,

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and we can... I'm sure you have other questions about that, so I'll stop there.

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Zeitgeist began as a public performance,

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an attempt at a vaudevillian concept.

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What I did was I set up two screens,

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with the videos that were on the two screens.

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Some of the equipment you see here was used.

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I've actually sold off most of my equipment.

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But regardless... I think I have some photographs I can give you.

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There's only a few that actually were captured, believe it or not, at the original event.

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I wish I had documented the original event,

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because people keep asking me about it.

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But never the less,  it started off as a creative work,

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a variation on an early vaudevillian concept.

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Film and live music. Live performance.

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And once it was over, you know there was a...

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it was a free event. I did it for six nights, I believe.

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And people came, I advertised it like crazy.

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I spent thousands and thousands of dollars.

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I did it mainly because I had been stuck in the corporate reality,

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and I just wanted to do something for myself to make myself feel better

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about a world that's going to shit, essentially.

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A world that's being dominated by finance, a world that's sick and distorted,

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through religious processes, financial oligarchs.

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It was just an expression, it was in fact a very angry, but solemn expression.

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I never expected it to turn out to be what it was, at all.

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After it was over, I just found myself in a little bit more debt.

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And I took the work which, by the way, I had no clearance for,

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I didn't clear any of the aspects with it.

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But, since the internet is what it is, tossed it up online to see what would happen.

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Maybe some people would like it, they'd download it, I'd get some feedback.

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Whatever.

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What happened completely blew my mind.

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I posted it on one website, and from there, a chain reaction occurred, and I...

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It's pretty much all history from that point on, I couldn't even tell you how it unfolded.

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I got wind of the fact that it was getting a tremendous amount of hits,

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and talked about a lot, so I built a website for it:

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www.zeitgeistmovie.com

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And I just had it up there for free.Then I realized that people wanted it on DVD.

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Like ok, I guess I should try to do that.

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So I was forced into a very difficult position of getting clearance from all the participants involved,

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which was very difficult, by the way because,

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everyone saw dollar-signs,

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because it's an Internet film that's getting millions of views.

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So I had to pay out a lot of money to a set number of people to get it going.

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But there were also people that were just happy to see this information get out there,

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and didn't have any problems with me doing

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what I call a "non-commercial distribution".

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A $5 DVD, for it to be released, in some capacity.

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From there I got an email from an organization called the Artivist Film Festival.

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which was a packed audience, sold out audience.

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At this stage it was still utterly bewildering to me.

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This was the same organization of course that showed Zeitgeist: Addendum the next year.

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"In a world where media is often used to keep us a little dumbed down

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more than anything else, as far as my opinion is concerned."

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I've often said, art without conscience is meaningless,

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and I think action without conscience is futile.

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So, I think it's so great to have a festival that represents these types of ideas.

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is for people to start looking at the very fundamental root causes

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of all of these problems that we see in society.

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So, that's a general run down of what happened.

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The Zeitgeist Movement.

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The Zeitgeist movement was a very difficult decision for me.

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I could have just made Zeitgeist: Addendum like other socially conscious film makers do

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in the sense that I could have just said: "Oh, well here's a bunch of stuff,

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here's a bunch of problems. Hey, here are some possible solutions.

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Take what you will with it, and just roll with it and see what happens."

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I really was on the fence about putting at the very end;

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"Join the movement www.thezeitgeistmovement.com"

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And 6) Join the movement.

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Go to thezeitgeistmovement.com and help us create

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the largest mass movement for social change the world has ever seen.

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I knew that the moment that it became something more than just a film phenomenon,

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that my life would likely change dramatically, which it has.

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Zeitgeist: Addendum was sparked out of people emailing me saying,

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"Well, what do we do about all of these cultural problems?

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What do we do about a corrupt banking system?

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What do we do about people that  are locked into establishment social programs, if you will?"

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I consider the trains of thought and mind to be a program.

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I consider society itself to be a program that's running.

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And the programing locks people into a specific frame of reference.

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How do we deal with these issues?

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How do we do, what do we do?

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And Zeitgeist: Addendum was an attempt at answering that question.

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After Zeitgeist 1 was released, it got into the hands of Jacque and Roxanne.

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And after reading Jacques book, which they sent me,

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I realized that, even I was backwards on a lot of issues that needed to be corrected.

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This was something that I was attempting to do in part, I had a notion of,

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but it wasn't until I met Jacque Fresco that the lense became focused.

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Jacque's experience, life experience, what he had talked about for so long,

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just focused me in the right direction, as far as I'm concerned.

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So I made a whole section with him in Zeitgeist: Addendum,

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Anyone that chooses to challenge establishment orthodoxy,

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traditional world views, not to mention the system that we live in,

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sets themself up for vehement attacks.

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I'm well aware of this.

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There are a great number of people out there that know that something is wrong.

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But, they do not understand the source of that wrongness,

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because they are in the box of indoctrination.

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Socrates. Socrates never speculated on the slavery that was existing during his time.

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whether it's Carl Marx, whether it's Plato.

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They're all locked into an established paradigm,

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and their thought processes can only go so far.

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And this includes, probably, myself.

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People are locked into a box.

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They see the box around them,

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they see the leaks and the holes and the cracks and they go up to the cracks

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and they try to fix them; they try to patch the holes.

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Maybe the integrity of the box that they exist in is inherently invalid, it's inherently void.

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The economic system that we live in is a parasitic paradigm,

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that is only going to lead to self-destruction.

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But people don't see that.

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So if you attack the economic system for what it actually is, everyone's feathers go up.

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Everyone says: "Well, wait a minute. This is the world we all live.

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We live in a profit-based, labor-for-income world, cyclical consumption.

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This is what we're used to.

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We understand we have division of classes."

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You know, they throw in human nature,

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they throw in everything that will try to make it seem like it's  apart of the natural order of reality

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when, in fact, it's not.

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If I was to summarize the attacks that typically happen towards myself and the people I work with,

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the first one would be credentialism.

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Credentialism is an annotation for the priesthood of those in the know.

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Now, bear in mind, this is a gradient of relevance.

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Obviously, I'm not going to go to a doctor, if I can help it,

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that has absolutely no credentials in the surgery that I might need performed.

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They require instruction and experience to do so.

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When it comes to the simple analysis of information.

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When it comes to the analysis of history.

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It's not based on laws of physics;

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it's not based on any aspect of scientific law that has any relationship to planetary operation.

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Then, suddenly, it becomes very relevant to speculate as to what these things actually mean to society.

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It's a double-edged sword when you get a Masters, Bachelors, PhD in a particular medium

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because think about what you're actually doing.

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by the institutions that have existed prior.

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that have a great deal of subjective variance,

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you lose objectivity, in that sense.

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is to be completely indoctrinated into the idea

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that what you're studying is actually a science that actually has some type of relevance to anything.

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So, when I get emails from PhDs in Economics

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that try to debunk the aspects that we talk about,

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it becomes quite clear to me, that the reason they have such an objection is really an emotional one.

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It isn't an objective aspect.

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They have culminated an identity to themselves, because of their belief-system.

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And for me to take that away from them,

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to debunk their ideas about economics, is to take away their identity.

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It's easy to point out, that some of the greatest minds that have contributed

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some of the most powerful inventions to our world,

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have come from non-establishment institutions,

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have worked on their own, they've done their own studies,

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they've guided their own direction of information.

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They didn't just sit in a classroom and take in the rote information,

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do the step by step processes as oriented by the establishment,

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and then grab their diploma and degree and;

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"Hey, now I'm an expert in a given field."

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The most tremendous minds, the most tremendous contributions,

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comes from those, from those that are outside of the box.

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I don't even need to give examples of that to make that known.

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So, back to my point,

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when it comes to social theory, if you will, credentialism, I give zero weight to.

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Academia is a detriment to advancing the social progress.

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Another form of attack simply comes from the cultural nuance,

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comes from the social programming.

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What we call the "self-appointed guardians of the status quo."

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People that are suffering in the system just like anyone else,

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but their social identification is so powerful, they are so locked into the box,

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that they find it infuriating to think that what they're living is actually wrong, paradoxically.

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I get this all the time from people.

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The self-appointed guardians of the status quo

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are birthed in religion, birthed in economics,

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birthed in the illusion of democracy that we see today across the world.

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Birthed in the various "isms" that are entirely pointless:

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Capitalism, Communism, Fascism, Socialism.

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You have the priesthood of the monetary system, the capitalists if you will,

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you can give it that rhetoric, I don't use that word, it's meaningless.

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The monetaryism is the word I use.

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The pretense for acquisition of money is based on differential advantage,

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which is based on dishonesty. Period.

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Then you have the priesthood of religious concepts, religious identification,

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and the idea that somehow we know everything already, and there's a God,

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and he's looking down on us, controlling everything.

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I won't even go into the paradoxes that come from that extremely narrow notion.

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So, in other words, the biggest crutch to the evolution of human thought,

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is breaking your own indoctrination.

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It's very, very difficult to overcome emotional elements that have become so ingrained in you,

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that you have an immediate reaction, an immediate suffering and pain when anything interferes with that.

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It's a very, very complex problem.

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But I'll say it again: We have to learn how to break...

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excuse me, we have to learn how to identify and break our own indoctrination,

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if we expect to move forward at all, as a civilization.

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My name was put forward because I wanted to protect my friends and family from the association.

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People say to me: "Well, you should come out with everything. If you're gonna talk about any of this stuff,

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then you've got to be prepared to deal with all of this and that, that you've set up for yourself."

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I had an email that said that to me,

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criticizing me for not releasing my last name.

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And, I thought to myself, you know what? What they're actually saying, anyone who actually says that,

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is actually saying that Martin Luther King deserved to die,

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or that Gandhi deserved to die,

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for making themselves known.

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I've gotten many death threats from the religious community.

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We live in a very fucked up, sick culture.

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We really do. Society is mentally ill.

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To be normal is to be messed up in this culture.

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So, my name "Peter Joseph". You know...

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At what point does my identity become absolutely transparent?

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Should I give people my social security number?

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Should I give them my tax returns?

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And just to throw it in there,

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there are plenty of people throughout history that have gone by their first and middle name,

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excluding their last name from their general communication and walks in their society.

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Just like people often use their middle name and their last name.

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Those that have something against me for the things that I talk about,

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want to find anything they can to try and to make me look like I'm hiding something,

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or I have ulterior motives. And I expect that.

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But, you know, whatever. It doesn't mean anything to me.

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I go by Peter Joseph. People can call me whatever the hell they want to call me.

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I'm constantly interacting, putting myself out there. I have nothing to hide.

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And even if someone finds out my real identity, where I live,

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who my parents are, who everyone and my friends are,

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it's not gonna change a damn thing.

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The unfortunate reality is, that I am given a controversial title,

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and people do have a lot of problems with me, of a more traditional-minded upbringing,

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and I don't like to see other people suffer because of what I do.

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But most of my friends and family are very much aware and they accept this.

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So, this is something that I just deal with.

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Anyone who thinks that I do what I do for notoriety reasons or monetary reasons,

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or anything associated with self-interest,

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has a lot to learn.

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First of all, I operate the movement site and the movement itself on a deficit.

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I do pay people to run and program things.

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I have a lot of volunteers, which I'm extremely indebted to.

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But to get things done quickly, very often, I have to get people that work in the industries to do things.

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I sell a t-shirt to do that.

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It's the only thing that I sell that is designated for the movement.

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As far as the DVD sales,

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if people can't respect the fact that I charge $5 for DVD's that could be charged $20 for,

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that I did spend a great deal of money to make those films.

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The DVD sale's obviously are part of my income.

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I denote that they are not for profit,

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meaning that the money does go back into other projects, which it has.

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I've had to shut down bulk selling, in fact, because people were buying the discs from me in bulk

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at about $2 a piece and re-selling them for $20 on the Internet.

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It's very frustrating.

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I've hurt myself a lot financially, because of all of this.

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The double standard is quite fascinating to me.

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You have all these social organizations that take in millions of dollars of money for donations.

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They sell tons of crap.

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And suddenly we get attacked because we sell anything,

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because of our interest to in fact remove the monetary paradigm, entirely.

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I'm sorry. We have to survive to do something.

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So, just to make it clear:

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the Zeitgeist Movement is predicated on making information free.

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I put all of my films up for free. I allow downloads of them, for free.

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Anyone wants to help me out by buying a $5 DVD,

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I could charge $20 for easily commercially, that helps.

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But I don't push it.

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I will continue to work in advertising, or anything else I have to do

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to keep things going while maintaining the integrity of the movement itself,

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by walking the line of non-profitability.

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The only time that we'll ever ask for donations as the movement,

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is when we have a big project that needs to move forward.

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We have no projects like that now.

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We're in a period of, we're in a period of collecting people

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and streamlining functionality.

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ECONOMICS

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If you read economics,

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they present it as though it's a science.

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I've read through much of the curriculum

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of what bachelor's and master's degree Harvard University students

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would read for their degrees in economics.

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Economics is not a science.

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It's an invention. It's a contrivance.

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It's funny, you look at economics books

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and they have graphs and charts and they make complex novel equations.

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It's all contrived.

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It doesn't have any relationship to the natural order of things.

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It is based upon and folkway of orienting production and distribution,

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and we've established this massive structure that makes it seem valid.

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There's really nothing anyone needs to know about economics, than the fact that

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the entire global economic system is based upon people constantly consuming,

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regardless of the state of affairs in natural orders of energy,

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planetary materials and anything else.

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It is blind, narrow consumption with absolutely no regard for the environment.

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SCIENCE

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We have to recognize that we're all scientists.

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And we all have to start thinking about things in a scientific manner,

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which most of us do to a certain extent.

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Even the most religiously-minded individuals,

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use science all the time when they evaluate buying a car,

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when they evaluate their general life.

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They use these things constantly. We all do. We're all scientists.

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That is the discovery, the epiphany that needs to come out.

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Science is not a cold, heartless thing.

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It is what has given us everything that comprises our well-being.

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Now, you can argue philosophy,

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as far as I'm concerned,

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any form of philosophy, any form of notions of morality,

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are absolutely meaningless unless they are sprouted from the natural world using

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what I would consider to be, analysis known as the scientific method.

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I am nothing but bored to tears by philosophical dispositions and verbal hobbies,

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that do absolutely nothing.

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Religion is a verbal hobby.

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RELIGION

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One of the age old scams of the establishment

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is to hand religion to the populous,

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so they feel like there's something positive waiting for them

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as they suffer because of this perpetual, constant, oligarchical evolution

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that has emerged since, I believe, the hunter-gatherer society.

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When we culminated agriculture, we altered everything.

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We created social stratification; we began to control the environment.

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Before the Neolithic Revolution, it's been well documented by anthropologists

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that there was a natural balance to the planet.

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Population was in balance because we could only do what the Earth provided for us naturally.

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Once we started to control the planet through agriculture, and now through many different means,

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we began to create dis- imbalance; we began to create uneven supplies.

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We began to generate scarcity, deliberately,

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for the sake of self-preservation and profit.

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So, as society became more and more imbalanced,

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as the concept of property emerged.

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As the great pirates started to travel the oceans,

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bringing back goods to different continents, to different kingdoms, creating power structures of resources,

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certain tools were used to control humanity to keep those

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that were not "deserving the right of life" or "deserving the fruits"...

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To keep the stratification going, they were given various tools to subdue them.

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Religion is one of the age old tools to subdue the masses.

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Now by the way, I'm not saying that's where the origin of religion came from.

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That's a whole different subject if you want to talk about it,

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because it was covered in the first part of my film.

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I'm simply talking about the political usage of religion which carries on to this day.

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How many times do you hear the president of the United States say:

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"God bless America"?

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What an offensive, insulting thing to say to the American people.

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First of all, it's offensive to every other country in the world.

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Why would God just bless America?

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God would bless the planet if we lived in a sane society.

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If there was a God, of course.

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Anyway, I won't even go on that tangent.

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Religion to me, has two sides.

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On one side you have the dogma, the indoctrination.

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You have resurrections, you have all the fantasy notions, that have come, excuse me,

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that exist in the literary books that are there.

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On the other side there's a brilliant philosophical disposition.

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I happen to love a lot of the things that the Jesus character had stated.

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I see beautiful notions in almost every major religious figure.

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There are time tested values that exist in religious thought,

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that do need to be adhered to.

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Some of the most brilliant and beautiful people I've met are, in fact, Christians,

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or Islamic, or Hindus,or Jewish.

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They know were to draw the line,

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where to stop at the fanaticism.

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Because that's where the religious danger goes to.

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Once you believe something dogmatically enough where you say,

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"Jesus existed. That's that. Anyone who says otherwise is an enemy of mine."

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Then you have some very serious neurosis to deal with.

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Whether Jesus existed or not doesn't mean anything.

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I think Jacque Fresco put it best on Larry King.

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When Larry King asked him "What do you think about Christianity", he said,

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"I think it's great. When are they going to put it into practice?"

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So, my religious disposition is that I wish that those that have religious inclinations,

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would really dig deep into their beliefs and ask themselves

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what is it about their religion that they actually use?

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What is it about the reciprocation notions that you can find in all religions,

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that you see actually materialize in most people's behavior?

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00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,000
"The Golden Rule" and all those things which exist in all religions,

472
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:27,000
I think we have a list in our PDF for The Zeitgeist Movement Orientation Guide.

473
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:32,000
If you review these ideas, no one puts them into practice.

474
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,000
In the end, my disposition on religion is very, very simple:

475
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,000
it's nothing but a bunch of stories. They are allegories that have meaning.

476
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:44,000
They get distorted through interpretations because that's the nature of semantics.

477
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,000
But I don't want to rule out religion.

478
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,000
I don't think religion should be outlawed or anything like that.

479
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,000
I think it should be understood for what it is.

480
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,000
The problem with humanity is we're ripped apart.

481
00:29:55,000 --> 00:30:00,000
There are far too many ideologies out there that have no basis on anything tangible.

482
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,000
I want this, I wanna make this very, very clear:

483
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,000
all orthodox religions, at least Western religions...

484
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:11,000
there might be a few elements of Hinduism and Buddhism that are an exception...

485
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,000
but let's just say the Judeo-Christian Islamic system of belief, to me, is no different

486
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:22,000
than the isms of state associations that we see in our political sphere,

487
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,000
meaning communism, socialism, fascism, capitalism.

488
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:31,000
These are ideas that have been created that have no relevance to nature whatsoever.

489
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:36,000
In other words, they have absolutely no relevance to the carrying capacity of the Earth,

490
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,000
to our ability to support ourselves;

491
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,000
to our ability to produce, to the methods of production,

492
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,000
to the methods of distribution;

493
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,000
to the way we orient society and keep ourselves alive and keep ourselves healthy

494
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,000
and prosper, and for the betterment of the...

495
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:56,000
what I consider to be the organism of the human species, as a single organism.

496
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,000
None of those beliefs have anything to do with any of that,

497
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,000
and that's a problem to me.

498
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,000
For example, the Catholic church, and a lot of other religions

499
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,000
that feed off of those early old testament ideologies,

500
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:15,000
they advocate this illusion that we can just procreate constantly,

501
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,000
and everyone's going to be fine.

502
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,000
God will take care of everyone.

503
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:27,000
As of right now, with the future of energy, established energy,

504
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:32,000
the future of the way we are orienting ourselves on this planet through depletion,

505
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,000
I'm not having any children.

506
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,000
While I try to be as optimistic as possible

507
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,000
with The Zeitgeist Movement and what we could do,

508
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,000
which is phenomenal, what we could do.

509
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,000
As of right now we have some powerful barriers.

510
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,000
I'm not having children. Why?

511
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,000
Why would I say that?

512
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,000
First of all, I wouldn't feel good.

513
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,000
I would feel utterly negligent and irresponsible at this point in time,

514
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,000
to bring in another human being.

515
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:03,000
Most people when they give birth to children, it's a traditionalized self-serving, established notion where,

516
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,000
"We are going to have kids and a family.  To hell with the carrying capacity of the Earth,

517
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,000
to hell with the fact that we might be impoverished."

518
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,000
I mean, you see this in trailer parks all the time.

519
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,000
I used to live in a trailer park. I've seen this countless, countless times.

520
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,000
People don't have any relationship to anything. They have no education,

521
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:24,000
as far as what makes society work, as far as what the processes are that feed them.

522
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,000
So, they continue to have kids over and over and over again,

523
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,000
or do many, many things that have no relationship to anything.

524
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,000
But let's focus on the children aspect.

525
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,000
For me to bring in a child, is for me to actually say:

526
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:39,000
"I believe the world will be in good shape for the duration of my child's life."

527
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,000
And then it becomes: "What if my child has a grand child?

528
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:50,000
Should the world have the integrity to maintain stability for that child as well?"

529
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,000
This is the question.

530
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,000
This is what all parents out there should be asking themselves.

531
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,000
They shouldn't be having children for their own self serving needs

532
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,000
so they can have "a family" and be traditional and show up at church

533
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,000
and have their two kids.

534
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,000
It has to relate to something real.

535
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,000
Humanity has to start thinking about its relationship to the Earth.

536
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,000
Until it does so, we're fucking doomed.

537
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,000
We have created a economic structure,

538
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,000
a religious-philosophical structure,

539
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:27,000
that is absolutely de-coupled from anything tangible and real,

540
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:32,000
and these ideologies are what will destroy the human species and destroy the planet.

541
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,000
DEBUNKERS

542
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,000
It has become a cottage industry

543
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:41,000
for people to sell books and DVDs debunking Zeitgeist.

544
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:47,000
There are people that have full websites that use advertising, sponsorship to make money,

545
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,000
and I find the whole thing just to be amusing frankly.

546
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,000
Zeitgeist 1 is based on pre-existing information.

547
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:58,000
There isn't one thing in that film that doesn't come from a source.

548
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:03,000
The most grand debunking aspect is part one, the religion section.

549
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,000
Comparative religion.

550
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:11,000
It's no mystery. It's been talked about for decades and centuries:

551
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,000
religions have been borrowing from each other.

552
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,000
Religions have to borrow from each other.

553
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,000
Why? Because all information is serial.

554
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,000
All knowledge is serial.

555
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:30,000
It is illogical to think that any information of any religion is of a novel origin.

556
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:36,000
And that's the beauty of it in fact, when you trace the source of most established religions,

557
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,000
because they all come back to nature.

558
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:45,000
They all come back from primitive ideas about natural unfoldings of nature-

559
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,000
storms, the sun obviously.

560
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:55,000
It's nothing metaphysical. It's nothing esoteric. It's just absolutely obvious.

561
00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:02,000
Is it any mystery that the sun has been idolized as a source of life?

562
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,000
Which it is.

563
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,000
Is it any mystery, for any of that? Obviously not.

564
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,000
PRESENT

565
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,000
As of right now,

566
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,000
we are running out of oil.

567
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,000
We are going to be running out of natural gas.

568
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,000
In fact, very simply, all fossil fuels,

569
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,000
which is the governance of all society;

570
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,000
our entire society is completely created based on fossil fuels,

571
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,000
from the plastics, everything.

572
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,000
I'm not even going to go into it.

573
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:36,000
Anyone that questions that, just take a moment to think about what oil powers, what fossil fuels power.

574
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,000
From the lights that we all use,

575
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,000
from the coal or natural gas power plants, to what runs your car,

576
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:48,000
to what comprises the fabric of industrial civilization, is fossil fuels.

577
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,000
And we are provably using them at the rate far exceeding their renewability,

578
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,000
which takes hundreds of millions of years.

579
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,000
No one's thinking about this.

580
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:01,000
No one is thinking about it because the economic paradigm will not allow it.

581
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,000
The core value of our Western Society today...

582
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:10,000
I mean, in America, the central motivating value now is nothing but blind consumption.

583
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,000
"Saturdays are for shopping", I heard someone once say.

584
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:21,000
You know, there's a reason why I used Times Square in Zeitgeist Addendum as the noise,

585
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,000
if you remember there's all the noise on the screens because,

586
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,000
Times Square is the epitome of absolute waste.

587
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,000
The most disgusting angles of humanity.

588
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,000
Materialistic noise.

589
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:40,000
Humanity cannot survive in a paradigm that requires infinite growth,

590
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,000
which again, is what it's based on.

591
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,000
If you're not familiar with that, think about it.

592
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,000
All we do is buy and consume, and consume, and consume.

593
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,000
That's what makes the economy go.

594
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,000
If people stop buying, the GDP of all countries goes down.

595
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,000
Well, the more we buy, consume and waste our resources,

596
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,000
the faster we extinguish ourselves.

597
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,000
What do you do?

598
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,000
What do you do? How do you stop this?

599
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,000
This is why The Zeitgeist Movement exists.

600
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:08,000
We have to; one, get a philosophical disposition under our belts that says;

601
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,000
"You know what? We're all on the same page."

602
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,000
"We all have to survive on this planet."

603
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,000
"We are faced with some tremendous problems,

604
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,000
and the only way they are going to be resolved is to begin to work together."

605
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,000
Everyone needs to shed their religious ideas,

606
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,000
and to shed their capitalist, socialist, fascist, communist preconstructs.

607
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,000
They need to shed everything that they have been taught

608
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,000
and ask themselves one simple question:

609
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,000
"What the fuck do we need to continue our survival on this planet

610
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:41,000
without horrors and wars and continuing the patterns of all the things that continue to happen?"

611
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,000
RESOURCE-BASED ECONOMY

612
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:48,000
You know, The Zeitgeist Movement as it's been denoted in all of our materials is the, quote;

613
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:53,000
"Activist arm of The Venus Project", pushing forward to what we call a "resource-based economy".

614
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,000
A resource-based economy is very, very simple.

615
00:37:55,000 --> 00:38:02,000
It's simply a system that is structured in a, quote;"systems theory approach".

616
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,000
To explain the systems theory approach, all you have to do is to look at the planet itself.

617
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,000
The planet is a holistic system.

618
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,000
So, the first step is very, very simple:

619
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,000
we recognize it as a system and we treat it as such.

620
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:17,000
We have to start measuring and monitoring all the Earthly resources.

621
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:22,000
We cannot be so stupid as to give corporations the ability to control,

622
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,000
for their own little clique's betterment,

623
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,000
resources that we all should have an inherent, inherent... deserving ahh-...

624
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,000
Every resource on the planet should be common heritage to all human beings.

625
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,000
There's no way to create a stable society otherwise.

626
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:41,000
So, we are born on this planet, you inherit the planet. The planet is your home.

627
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:47,000
Not some plot of land that has the illusion of property.

628
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,000
Not some house that you think you own. There's no such thing as ownership.

629
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,000
The idea of ownership is controlled restriction.

630
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:59,000
Ownership is simply there really for those at the top

631
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:04,000
to make sure no one can interfere with the fact that they control mostly everything.

632
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,000
So, we have to monitor the planet's resources.

633
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:12,000
We have to begin to construct a system of production and distribution

634
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,000
that is not based on the whims of profit.

635
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,000
It's based on what is the most efficient means to do that.

636
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,000
There are resources all over the planet obviously.

637
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,000
We have to begin to understand what we have.

638
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,000
We have to use science and technology to begin to orient

639
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,000
our use of these resources in the most efficient way possible.

640
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,000
And that's why we advocate the systems approach that we do.

641
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:38,000
If you motivated our resources right now to change the face of the Earth,

642
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,000
to create a resource-based economy, we could do it very, very quickly.

643
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,000
The problem is, again,

644
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,000
the established orthodoxies and self-preserving mechanisms that are in place,

645
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,000
which will be our death.

646
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,000
The free market is what will kill everything on this planet.

647
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,000
It's not the "free market", it's actually the monetary system.

648
00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:01,000
Monetary acquisition and exchange through labor for income, and the motivation of profit,

649
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,000
will be what destroys humanity.

650
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,000
Because all it does is pull everything in the direction of those that have the most power.

651
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:13,000
Right now we are faced with an ecological collapse, an energy collapse, specifically.

652
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:18,000
We're faced with an economic collapse which is very much tied into the energy collapse.

653
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:23,000
We're faced with a labor collapse, which of course is very much tied to the economic collapse.

654
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,000
And we're faced with what I call the "criminal meltdown".

655
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,000
The breakdown of society is occurring. People say,

656
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,000
"Well, we're gonna have a recovery of the economy."

657
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:36,000
The most dangerous thing that we can have right now, is a recovery of the US economy.

658
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:42,000
The most dangerous thing that we can have right now, is the use of more resources,

659
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,000
because all it's going to do is speed up the inevitable destruction.

660
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:49,000
If more people go out and buy lots of automobiles to help the economy,

661
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,000
all that's going to do is get more fuel into the tanks,

662
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,000
taken from the resources of the planet.

663
00:40:55,000 --> 00:41:01,000
More gasoline's used. More energy is going to be wasted on the idea of consumption.

664
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,000
And this is what, again, will kill us.

665
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,000
So, a resource-based economy

666
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:13,000
attempts to remove all of the [u]nsustainable practices that we have now,

667
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,000
and create a holistic system of resource management,

668
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,000
of priority of labor- that's a big one.

669
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:26,000
Think about how much time is wasted in most people's lives in jobs that do absolutely nothing.

670
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:31,000
Think about how much energy is wasted by someone who works at Wall Street,

671
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:35,000
driving from Pennsylvania every single day from their home,

672
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,000
so they can be a trader on Wall Street,

673
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,000
wasting energy on something that means nothing,

674
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,000
that wastes even more electricity and energy.

675
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,000
When you begin to think like that,

676
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,000
when you begin to see how much energy and resources are wasted

677
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,000
on actions that have no return whatsoever,

678
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:58,000
except the self-interest and consumeristic monetary values of particular individuals,

679
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,000
but return nothing to society.

680
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,000
Think about how beautiful society would be

681
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,000
when we start to educate people on natural processes of the environment-

682
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,000
on science, technology and resource conservation.

683
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:14,000
And when people can gauge society in a, excuse me, on a professional level, if you will,

684
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,000
they do so on things that actually matter.

685
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,000
(pheew)

686
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,000
That would be cataclysmic.

687
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,000
That would be unbelievable.

688
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,000
To see people doing stuff that actually has a relevance.

689
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,000
That will enable them to have so much more freedom, too.

690
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,000
To put it in a gestural sense,

691
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,000
the way I see human survival and the human self-interest mechanism, which does exist,

692
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,000
but it's accelerated by our system,

693
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:52,000
is... making a psychological trick to what it means to umm... be self-serving.

694
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,000
Social interest needs to become self-interest.

695
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,000
In other words when I invent something,

696
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,000
that is given to everyone

697
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,000
for them to improve upon and to utilize.

698
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:07,000
That invention isn't hoarded through patents and trademarks, it's given to everyone.

699
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,000
In turn, what that means is that every time anyone else invents something,

700
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,000
or creates something or has an idea,

701
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,000
that comes to me too.

702
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:19,000
Suddenly humanity becomes a singular organism. It becomes a working system.

703
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,000
SPIRITUALITY

704
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,000
People ask me a lot about spirituality.

705
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,000
They say, "Well, if you don't like any of the established religions,

706
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,000
are you spiritual in any other way?"

707
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,000
Or something like that.

708
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,000
The only type of spirituality that is actually relevant,

709
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:39,000
is a understanding of natural processes and the natural order of the universe,

710
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,000
to give it annoying vernacular.

711
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:46,000
The way natural laws work, gravity, the way the world actually works:

712
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,000
God is in the laws of nature and nothing more.

713
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,000
I believe that a true spiritual awakening

714
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,000
will be when people start to realize that

715
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,000
they have to begin to work together,

716
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,000
they have to share their resources.

717
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,000
They have to begin to understand that they live off of this planet,

718
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,000
that they get their light from the sun,

719
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,000
that there are energy sources that are natural and abundant,

720
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,000
that could be made available to all;

721
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,000
that we share everything, and we work together,

722
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,000
because that's what the system demands.

723
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,000
The Earth demands this.

724
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,000
The species demands this for our survival.

725
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,000
And that will be a spiritual awakening, if you want to give it that type of term.

726
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,000
FUTURE

727
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,000
We live in a world of tremendous possibility,

728
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,000
positive possibility.

729
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:41,000
However, all indicators point to what I consider to be self-destruction,

730
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:47,000
given our current, established economic and ideological structures.

731
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:52,000
Once again: Capitalism, Socialism, Communism, Fascism,

732
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,000
Judeo, Islamic, Christian belief systems...

733
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:04,000
They have no relationship to what actually makes, creates, survival of the species.

734
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,000
The real sad thing is, is that,

735
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:12,000
humanity is going to have to be smacked around quite a bit,

736
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,000
before they really understand what The Zeitgeist Movement,

737
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,000
a resource-based economy and The Venus Project,

738
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,000
Jacque Fresco... is talking about.

739
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,000
We are driven by bio-social pressures.

740
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:31,000
Meaning that it takes problems for us to wake up and want to change things.

741
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,000
I don't want to see humanity suffer.

742
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:38,000
I don't want to see the population start to shrink because of our lack of energy and food.

743
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,000
I don't want to see these things happen.

744
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,000
But I know, sadly, that a good portion of it is going to happen.

745
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:50,000
Until people start to wake up and recognize a new paradigm that's on the horizon,

746
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:54,000
that we must drive forward to as fast as humanly possible.

747
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,000
All you have to do is look at the current economic implosion.

748
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,000
The US government's in 12 trillion dollars worth of debt.

749
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,000
It becomes comical after a while.

750
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:08,000
What's going to happen when the US government hits 20 trillion? 30 trillion?

751
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:13,000
I mean, once the US government can't pay its interest on all the bonds that have been sold overseas,

752
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:17,000
and all of the outstanding debt that it has, then we're theoretically bankrupt.

753
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:22,000
What do you think is going to happen when China can't get its money from the United States?

754
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,000
What do you think is going to happen when the United States,

755
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,000
because we use 25% of the world's energy,

756
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:33,000
starts to run out of oil in Iraq and starts to invade other Middle Eastern countries,

757
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,000
which it will probably do beforehand... but starts to do that?

758
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,000
And China, of course, who gets oil from Iran says,

759
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,000
"You know what, I think we're going to have to stop you guys from taking Iran's oil.

760
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:48,000
Because we need that too, and you owe us a lot of money. It's kind of pissing us off."

761
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,000
Do you think war between these super powers might be possible?

762
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,000
Hmm... I think World War III

763
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,000
could be very, very possible.

764
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,000
And this war will be for real.

765
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:04,000
This will not be a contrivance war like WW I and WW II,

766
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,000
based on geopolitical realigning and various resource grabs.

767
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:13,000
This will be war for survival of different countries.

768
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,000
And, I hope that doesn't happen.

769
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:21,000
I sincerely hope, all of these things I talk about are erroneous and false but,

770
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,000
all you have to do is look at the trends.

771
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:31,000
One way or another, we will end up in a system that's not based on money as we know it today.

772
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,000
Why?  Because that will be realized in the future by historians,

773
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:42,000
as the total and pivotal cause of the destruction of civilization as we know it.

774
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,000
That will be understood in the future.

775
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,000
Historians will look back and say,

776
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,000
"Holy shit! They were making materials,

777
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,000
selling them for corporation profit,

778
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,000
over and over and over and over again,

779
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:59,000
with absolutely no reference to what the planet had and recycling protocols and everything else.

780
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:03,000
They were burning fossil fuels at a million times the rate of their actual renewability?"

781
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,000
They're going to laugh at us,

782
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:10,000
wondering what the hell kind of primitive dumbass species we actually were.

783
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,000
If we even survive to reach that point.

784
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:17,000
So, I hate to sound condescending and negative. I hate to throw out all this rhetoric,

785
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:23,000
but, I'm fairly irritated at this point, and I try not to be.

786
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,000
I just want to make it understood that,

787
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,000
the entire system that we live in is a sham.

788
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:33,000
It's a false system, falsivity defined by the fact that it cannot be sustained.

789
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,000
It's that simple.

790
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:39,000
And we propose a resource-based economy. I hope everyone watching this film will go to

791
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,000
www.thezeitgeistmovement.com

792
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,000
and understand what we're doing.

793
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,000
I hope everyone out there will understand that,

794
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:54,000
either we change or we die.

795
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:01,000
Thank you for all you do, Peter.

796
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,000
A film by Charles Robinson

797
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,000
Please duplicate as you see fit.

798
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,000
(without monetary gain, of course)

799
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,000
There is no DVD for sale.

800
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Download: www.whoispeterjoseph.com

801
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www.thezeitgeistmovement.com

802
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,000
www.thevenusproject.com

803
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www.zeitgeistmovie.com

804
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The Revolution is Now

805
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